Head to head
Bateson Derby vs Ifor Williams LM85
The Ifor Williams LM85 carries 1,950kg more and is rated 1.8 tonnes heavier gross.
Last reviewed 13 September 2026
Key differences
- Payload: the Ifor Williams LM85 carries 1,950kg more.
- Gross weight: the Ifor Williams LM85 is rated 1.8 tonnes heavier gross.
- Unladen weight: the Bateson Derby weighs 150kg more empty.
Specifications side by side
| Bateson Derby | Ifor Williams LM85 | |
|---|---|---|
| Gross weight | 1,700kg | 3500kg |
| Unladen weight | 675kg | 525kg |
| Payload | approx. 1,025kg | 2975kg |
| Internal length | 2.70m | - |
| Internal width | 1.50m | - |
| Internal bed | - | 2.44m x 1.52m |
Sources: Bateson Derby, Ifor Williams LM85. Figures vary by model year and options, so check with the supplier before you commit.
Buy or hire the Derby if...
A light double horse trailer that can be towed by a large saloon car rather than needing a 4x4, thanks to its low unladen weight. It suits owners moving one or two horses locally who want to avoid buying a heavier, purpose-built tow vehicle.
Listed by
- Horse Trailer Sales - Robertsbridge, Staplecross
Buy or hire the LM85 if...
- you want one that carries 1,950kg more
- you want one that is rated 1.8 tonnes heavier gross
- you want one that is 150kg lighter empty
A compact flatbed for smallholders and tradespeople who need to move heavy but not bulky loads, such as pallets of blocks, and want maximum payload from the smallest bed in the range.
Listed by
- Barnwell Trailers Ltd - Peterborough, Oundle, Barnwell
- Lancaster trailer hire - ELY
- R M Trailer Centre - Middlesbrough, North Ormesby
Common questions
What is the difference between the Bateson Derby and the Ifor Williams LM85?
The Ifor Williams LM85 carries 1,950kg more and is rated 1.8 tonnes heavier gross. The Bateson Derby is a lightweight rear-unload double horse trailer; the Ifor Williams LM85 is a the shortest flatbed trailer in the LM range.
Which is lighter, the Bateson Derby or the Ifor Williams LM85?
The Ifor Williams LM85. It is 150kg lighter empty than the Bateson Derby.
Which carries more, the Bateson Derby or the Ifor Williams LM85?
The Ifor Williams LM85, by 1,950kg.
Can I tow the Bateson Derby or the Ifor Williams LM85 on a car licence?
Yes, as far as the licence goes. Both are rated at or under 3,500kg gross, and a car (B) licence has covered towing up to 3,500kg since 16 December 2021. Your car still has to be rated to tow the loaded weight - check the handbook or the VIN plate.
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