Head to head
Bateson Derby vs Ifor Williams P8e
The Ifor Williams P8e is 457kg lighter empty. The Bateson Derby is rated 950kg heavier gross and carries 493kg more.
Last reviewed 13 September 2026
Key differences
- Unladen weight: the Bateson Derby weighs 457kg more empty.
- Gross weight: the Bateson Derby is rated 950kg heavier gross.
- Payload: the Bateson Derby carries 493kg more.
Specifications side by side
| Bateson Derby | Ifor Williams P8e | |
|---|---|---|
| Gross weight | 1,700kg | 750kg |
| Unladen weight | 675kg | 218kg |
| Payload | approx. 1,025kg | 532kg |
| Internal length | 2.70m | - |
| Internal width | 1.50m | - |
| Internal bed | - | 2.51m x 1.45m |
| Brakes | - | Unbraked |
Sources: Bateson Derby, Ifor Williams P8e. Figures vary by model year and options, so check with the supplier before you commit.
Buy or hire the Derby if...
- you want one that is rated 950kg heavier gross
- you want one that carries 493kg more
A light double horse trailer that can be towed by a large saloon car rather than needing a 4x4, thanks to its low unladen weight. It suits owners moving one or two horses locally who want to avoid buying a heavier, purpose-built tow vehicle.
Listed by
- Horse Trailer Sales - Robertsbridge, Staplecross
Buy or hire the P8e if...
- you want one that is 457kg lighter empty
For domestic and light trade users wanting the most bed space available before needing to move up to a braked trailer, useful for bulkier garden or DIY loads.
Listed by
- Blains Trailers & Tyres - Hemel Hempstead, Great Gaddesden
Common questions
What is the difference between the Bateson Derby and the Ifor Williams P8e?
The Ifor Williams P8e is 457kg lighter empty. The Bateson Derby is rated 950kg heavier gross and carries 493kg more. The Bateson Derby is a lightweight rear-unload double horse trailer; the Ifor Williams P8e is a the largest of Ifor Williams' unbraked small domestic trailers.
Which is lighter, the Bateson Derby or the Ifor Williams P8e?
The Ifor Williams P8e. It is 457kg lighter empty than the Bateson Derby.
Which carries more, the Bateson Derby or the Ifor Williams P8e?
The Bateson Derby, by 493kg.
Can I tow the Bateson Derby or the Ifor Williams P8e on a car licence?
Yes, as far as the licence goes. Both are rated at or under 3,500kg gross, and a car (B) licence has covered towing up to 3,500kg since 16 December 2021. Your car still has to be rated to tow the loaded weight - check the handbook or the VIN plate.
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