Head to head
Ifor Williams LM85 vs Lider 38398
The Ifor Williams LM85 is rated 1 tonnes heavier gross. The Lider 38398 is 65kg lighter empty.
Last reviewed 13 September 2026
Key differences
- Gross weight: the Ifor Williams LM85 is rated 1 tonnes heavier gross.
- Unladen weight: the Ifor Williams LM85 weighs 65kg more empty.
Specifications side by side
| Ifor Williams LM85 | Lider 38398 | |
|---|---|---|
| Gross weight | 3500kg | 2500kg |
| Unladen weight | 525kg | 460kg |
| Payload | 2975kg | - |
| Internal bed | 2.44m x 1.52m | - |
| Internal length | - | 300cm |
| Internal width | - | 150cm |
| Internal height | - | 50cm |
| Axles | - | 2 |
| Brakes | - | Braked |
Sources: Ifor Williams LM85, Lider 38398. Figures vary by model year and options, so check with the supplier before you commit.
Buy or hire the LM85 if...
- you want one that is rated 1 tonnes heavier gross
A compact flatbed for smallholders and tradespeople who need to move heavy but not bulky loads, such as pallets of blocks, and want maximum payload from the smallest bed in the range.
Listed by
- Barnwell Trailers Ltd - Peterborough, Oundle, Barnwell
Buy or hire the 38398 if...
- you want one that is 65kg lighter empty
A high-sided twin-axle general purpose trailer for builders and landscapers clearing large volumes of light bulky waste, with over two tonnes of rated payload.
Listed by
- Lider Trailers - Accrington, Blackburn
Common questions
What is the difference between the Ifor Williams LM85 and the Lider 38398?
The Ifor Williams LM85 is rated 1 tonnes heavier gross. The Lider 38398 is 65kg lighter empty. The Ifor Williams LM85 is a the shortest flatbed trailer in the LM range; the Lider 38398 is a a braked twin-axle general purpose trailer rated at 2500kg gross weight..
Which is lighter, the Ifor Williams LM85 or the Lider 38398?
The Lider 38398. It is 65kg lighter empty than the Ifor Williams LM85.
Can I tow the Ifor Williams LM85 or the Lider 38398 on a car licence?
Yes, as far as the licence goes. Both are rated at or under 3,500kg gross, and a car (B) licence has covered towing up to 3,500kg since 16 December 2021. Your car still has to be rated to tow the loaded weight - check the handbook or the VIN plate.
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